Episode 19 - The Duality of a Student

We go through our lives focused on the task at hand such as school, career, family, etc... that we forget ourselves. Sometimes, we need to enjoy things in life. Some like to go on vacation and others like to build things with their hands. Personally, I enjoy gaming. I have heard many times it is a waste of time and things like that but to me, it helps me escape and is my personal therapy. This week, we have a special episode with 2 guests,  Amy and Toria. Both eSport players and students at Kean University. I had the opportunity to talk to them about their life as a student and video gamers.  Tune in to learn more about working hard but still enjoying hobbies!

Transcript

00:00.00
drnobodypodcast
Welcome everybody to the Dr. Nobody podcast I have today my 2 guests amy and toria from cain university um, I'm really excited to have them on today this this topic today about esports and school really hits home to me personally as. I've been a gamer my whole life still am and during my time at cain. It was totally different. Esports was not the same as it is now but these ladies will definitely enlighten us on what esports are like now at king university and just in General. So amy do you want to go first and just and give us a quick introduction to yourself and then toro you can follow.

00:39.18
Amy Yang
I yeah, that's fun. Ah, hey guys my name is Amy yang I am currently a junior here at caine university studying business administration. Um I'm considering taking a minor marketing. Um I started or joined this esports. Club back in spring of 2020? Um, and we started out just as a small club but we we worked really hard and it's become probably 1 of the main hits on campus this semester. So.

01:14.40
drnobodypodcast
That's awesome.

01:16.38
Toria Cardieri
Yes, hi my name's Victoria Cartierri but I go by Victoria Um I'm the president of Kane esports. Um I'm a I'm also a junior at Caine University and my major is English literature. Um, I me and Amy started around the the same time for K Eports were to the founding members of the actual club on campus and it's probably 1 of my favorite things that I've ever done.

01:50.39
drnobodypodcast
that's that's cool ah so I guess my first question to both of you and um, how did you find the inspiration to start a club like this, especially it's not even the stigma of of being a girl gamer but just the stigma of being a gamer. Really because I mean I still get judged in my in my job with adults that make fun of me of being a gamer and I feel like that's never going to go away. You know I would just be so interested to hear what inspired you both to start it.

02:21.72
Toria Cardieri
Um, so I've been playing video games for pretty much my whole life. So I Know what it's like to kind of have that like video gamer Stigma kind of thing especially like as a girl in middle school. Quite hard because I would always wear the Zelda t-shirts. So ah, you know the boys are always like oh you play video games. But um, as soon as I got to high school and to college like more and more people start to care less about like those kinds of things and then you find people.

02:54.39
drnobodypodcast
M.

02:57.80
Toria Cardieri
Who are like you as well. Um me and amy were lucky to meet someone else who kind of had the idea because he went to a different school that had an esports club and when he mentioned this to um, like I think it was like. 4 or 5 of us that started the club when he mentioned it to us we were like we should all make a make a club here on ah cane because we all love video games. So um, it'd be great to bring it here and see you know who games here.

03:29.17
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, yeah.

03:31.17
Amy Yang
So for me, um I grew up playing probably on the playstation too and I still have that ancient thing in my house right now. Yeah, we don't pull it out. We don't pull it out often. But it's there when when I need it ah home.

03:39.54
drnobodypodcast
Must be nice I sold my long time ago. Ah.

03:49.56
Amy Yang
So Yeah, I've been playing games watching my sister play. She's 20 four now and she she stopped playing because she she focused on her career but I grew up playing the play playstation 2 with her watching my sister Play. So I've always been a huge gamer growing Up. Um. Didn't really say much about me playing games in like elementary school and middle school and mostly high school just because I feel like a lot of people kind of Shun being a gamer.. It's especially to a girl. It's like not very. Ah, stereotypical of us. Um, but ever since come into college and starting this club. We've got nothing but positive feedback Maybe a little bit of you know concerns from the higher ups on how the club would be run how. Ah, just how those logistics would work but we we did really well.

04:48.79
drnobodypodcast
Interesting now when do you think that stems from from being a girl or is it just because Esports is not really a serious thing I mean what I tell I mean I but I have pride and joy of. Saying jeremiah. My brother is an esports player and then I get right? after is what is that and I'm like ah people still don't recognize it. You know I remember watching league of legends. 1 of the largest video games esports games in the world. Having hundreds of millions of viewers more than the Mlb on espn and they still don't get any respect. What? What do you? think it was.

05:33.62
Amy Yang
Um, well that's it's difficult to say because I know competitive or electronic gaming. Ah only really became really popular in the Twentieth century. So there are still. A vast majority of the population who are still getting used to playing games. Um even old Retro games in um, in the arcade. They're still trying to understand. How that can evolve to what we have now a game I grew up with was runescape um, a lot of people will probably know what that is. yeah um yeah yeah I still kind of play. Um, but yeah people can be really confused from how only a few pixels on.

06:13.47
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, that's a throwback.

06:25.67
Amy Yang
A big machine in the arcade can become something as as big as what runescape is where it's a lot more detailed. Um the graphics are just a lot better. There's a lot more content to it. So yeah, yeah.

06:41.23
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, interesting now. How much work Do you think it takes to run this esports club versus any other club like for instance, the football team. Do you think it's the same less more work.

06:57.14
Toria Cardieri
And um, personally um I think it would be I don't want to say it's more work but it is kind of like more work because like if you think about it esports like people just kind of put like that general bubble of like esports. But. It's kind of like we're running like football baseball volleyball chess like all all of this in 1 like big thing you know what I mean because you got like legal legends overwatch valorant a Rocket league. You know all these different types of games and um, they're. It's it's a lot of people where I think we're 1 of the like the biggest clubs on on Campus. So I would say it is quite a bit of work. Um, and it's all different kinds of work too. So.

07:46.41
drnobodypodcast
And this kind of work does I Guess this is gonna be a 2 parter. Do you think that this affects your life right now as a student and do you think it benefits your life as a student. And what I mean by that is is it affecting your studies like oh my gosh I have to deal with this These are drama I forgot to set this up. All this team is winning. Let's celebrate and then there's okay, is this setting me up for my career because this is taking me this is taking up a lot of my time right Now. So.

08:22.24
Amy Yang
And um I yes to your first question if it's I guess hindering is not the right word. It has a kind of negative connotation to it but it does have. A lot of work that we have to put into and a lot of time and effort and consideration into every decision we have to make but that that doesn't just go for esports that can be any club on campus. That's as big or any organization like ah. Resident student life. They run events all the time and they got to make sure does this follow procedures does it. You know is it? Okay for for a university to run this and is if there is any like safety issues. So um, yeah, any anything in that sorts esports has. Definitely ben. Definitely um, put a lot of work on us as students. But I think it really takes um, a dedicated and passionate student to run this well and.

09:27.65
drnobodypodcast
And either of you can answer this. But do you feel like this is setting you up for your career or and it doesn't mean that it has to be 1 for on Meeting. It's I Guess it's technology based career. Um games right. It's not going to set you up for technology-based jobs but it can give you the skill sets to do anything else. Do you think it's doing that.

09:52.53
Toria Cardieri
Um, I Do think that it is helping me a lot like um like my social skills have definitely increased with like becoming the president of this club I Know how to handle like specific problems that I didn't used to know how to Handle. Um, even like ah like a podcast like this like I used to be like super shy and introverted and then now I'm doing a podcast and also when I took you know those M B Ti tests. It's like a personality test I went from introverted to Extroverted. So I found that I like yeah.

10:29.13
drnobodypodcast
That's a big jump and then.

10:31.10
Toria Cardieri
I Like hanging out with people now. It's kind of it's different. Yeah.

10:35.61
drnobodypodcast
That's awesome and I think just timely I think that really helps especially with covid and what covid has done to us as a society and our kind of our people skills and just the desire of wanting to be with other people and talk to other people. So. That's an amazing change and that you know I'm happy for you. Um, now when did you both first learn about Esports I'm so curious because there is a history of esports and it doesn't just start you know. Like couple years back. It actually goes really far back. By the way I'm going to pause the.

11:18.88
Toria Cardieri
Um, I first learned about esports and like competitive esports back in I think it was 2017 because I used to play csco. Um, since like I was like 13 I've been playing cs go but then my friends were like hey we're gonna go.

11:29.41
drnobodypodcast
M.

11:38.28
Toria Cardieri
To this tournament. We're going to watch um these like professional players. Do you want to come and I was like I didn't even know that was a thing so I got to go watch like all these really cool pro players like play my favorite game and there's this big area of like just a bunch of like. Gamers like that play the same game as me so I got to meet a lot of people got to watch competitive Cs go and then from then on I've been watching the competitive csco scene and then it just kind of spiraled from there and.

12:10.94
drnobodypodcast
Nice.

12:11.97
Amy Yang
For me. Um I want to say honestly at the very beginning of my college career. Um I started getting into the competitive side of esports when I first started playing league. I knew about league before 2019 I knew it was like big and a lot of people liked it. It was a lot of fun but I never really understood the um, the competitive aspect until I really started playing it and I can. Understand how much effort all these players have to put in and how much they have to practice just to make it to to worlds to to all these amazing ah conventions I think is that the word conventions where. All these pro players would be playing against each other there'd be multiple teams going against each other. It was just it was a shocking not shocking like I don't know what's the right word. Yeah.

13:18.99
drnobodypodcast
It's okay, no I I know exactly how you're feeling because when so just so you both know I started professionally and I put quotation marks because it didn't count back then for me personally. When I played counterst strike before it transformed into what it is now um in land tournaments where you would set up 10 computers back to back you know and on the same internet and everybody would play and just win money. Whatever I did halo tournaments. And then I too discovered eastports later on and I think it's from league legends for me too and I went to North carolina I watched people play that were professionally I saw on twitch or on youtube and I fanboyed I was just so excited I didn't know how to act I felt like I was meeting these famous people. They were just. People like us just bunch of kids playing video games and doing their thing you know trying to win some money trying to be competitive and it was fun. Um, do you see esports as a career for either of you personally.

14:28.45
Amy Yang
And for me. Um, yes, at least where I'm standing right now. So as a business major I know it's like and not typical to work in an office nine a 5 job I'm not up again. I'm not. Against that. But I'm also not really for it. But um, being able to build this club and make it such a big big part of cain now. Um and having to be able to compete or. Manage teams that are competing um on all the schools on the east coast and the experience I learned I definitely can see myself working in a position similar to this whether it be four caine. Or with ah e c a c which is the attorney we're running under this this semester from now on I guess um or even with a ah different company I can definitely see myself going out of my way and applying to something like that other than ah. And I don't know Google or any big company.

15:43.50
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, yeah.

15:46.24
Toria Cardieri
I um I did not originally see myself doing anything with video games as a career prior to this semester. But once I ended like once I became the president of this club and seeing like the esports scene like Firsthand um, i. Been considering like sticking with this but um, it doesn't really have anything to do with my my degree or my major right now. So I guess it's like a we'll see kind of thing and.

16:15.88
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, no I I understand um the reason why I ask you ladies these these questions is I feel like for me personally when I played video games a lot of people just found it as a waste of time. Um I would feel guilty about playing games till 2 3 in the morning people are like why aren't you studying? Why aren't you doing this and I could ah I could have exerted myself and been an a student but instead I decided to be a B student a B a student and play video games and enjoy what I was doing. But I learned a lot of skills I think 1 thing which is so fascinating to me is a motor skill which is twitch reflexes are you both familiar with twitch reflexes I'm sure you are both playing Shooters. So.

17:08.17
Amy Yang
So I don't really specify in the shooter games. But I think I know what you're talking about I.

17:14.70
drnobodypodcast
Okay, tore do you know what? I'm talking about so all right? So I'll I'll explain what twitch reflexes are for both you and for our listeners but I'm sure you've heard of it and you're gonna recognize it once I talk about it.

17:17.64
Toria Cardieri
Um, not particularly. But.

17:32.67
drnobodypodcast
So twitch reflexes is your ability to snap to a target or whatever you're doing very quickly without thinking about it honestly. So for instance, when you let's say you're about to drop a cup. And you snap your hands to it right before it falls but your brain I mean you didn even see it but your hands are already grabbing it. That's a twitch reflex. You're instantly reacting to something that you're not aware of in video games. You see that all the time especially in shooters now. Yeah, and there's. Stuff in league of legends and Rocket league and whatever other game that there's some type of twitch reflexes that are are associated with it that you have to really act instantly twitch. Reflexes actually decline after about 25 years old so once I started aging. Um, I started realizing my twitch rep flexes were going down but it really enhanced my I guess my mental capacity for certain things I'm a little more cognitive around my surroundings and things that I do or how I think or act a certain way. And that's because of games and also additionally I've learned vocabulary from video games that I found on my sats or my gres later on I'm like wow I didn't know this word before and thanks to video games I learned it. You know so have you both found any instances where. Skills sets in your video games have translated to something in real life that was a very long winded way of saying of asking that question. Yeah.

19:11.55
Toria Cardieri
Um I guess I guess yes like I um I also am the same way like um with the with the twitch reflexes like um like I can I guess also because I I played softball in high school. So I guess my reflexes have always been kind of like. Good with like sudden um like movements like that. But also like I guess with like um, again like this the social aspect with with um with video games also like is a skill that kind of like transfers over to real life like um I think a lot of people um like don't understand this with. When it comes to video games. But there's also like like a voice chat in most games now so you kind of like handle like all different types of people so you have to like learn how to handle like people that like get really like annoyed and toxic like within the first 2 minutes of the game. You're like okay like.

20:02.18
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, yeah.

20:07.40
Toria Cardieri
Let's calm down take some deep breaths like you you learn like um, how to like handle those types of people and learn how to handle your own anger when things get like really like annoying in a video game. So those kind of skills in that sense like I've learned. A lot. So.

20:25.54
Amy Yang
I I can agree with what she said on the twitch reflexes I didn't play any sports I wish I did um I didn't play any sports but um, definitely as little amount of shooters I have played I can definite I can see like. My my motor senses have been heightened. Um, when you mention about knocking a cup over and just grabbing it without thinking. That's that's happened to me a few times then I'd like with my phone. Oh my god um.

20:53.24
drnobodypodcast
Um, yeah, yeah I could I could assume I should have said phone that would have probably been like hit home for everybody. But.

21:02.11
Amy Yang
Yeah, um, that but also it I This could just I'm not exactly sure if this is from the the whole twitch. Ah what? what's would you call it The twitch group Twix re.

21:19.89
drnobodypodcast
Twitch reflexes.

21:21.79
Amy Yang
Twitch Reflexes Um, but was I thinking like I was I forgot Um, oh yes, So I I'm a very observant person. So like little.

21:28.12
drnobodypodcast
You were gonna give an example, it's okay so.

21:41.46
Amy Yang
Movements would catch me would catch my attention and that can be um, can be said as you know, Ah, what's it. What's it called attention to detail so it like it really works.

21:51.60
drnobodypodcast
Oh.

21:57.80
Amy Yang
Not in like ah, an office setting when you're looking at papers and words words are moving but like you you pay, you're you're like hyper focused on what you're doing and the task at hand. Um, because.

21:57.51
drnobodypodcast
Um, yeah, yeah.

22:12.76
Amy Yang
At Least for me Valrant. That's that's what it's like you you were got to be in the zone and in the field and know exactly when when you hear someone walking or when a flash bang is being thrown and you got to you got to react like right away because I could yeah it's either. You know you could die and your teammates could die within the 2 seconds or or if you react in time you know, maybe you can save yourself and your teammates from dying. So Yes I Definitely agree with um with what toyer said and what you mentioned before that.

22:33.40
drnobodypodcast
And.

22:51.21
Amy Yang
Video games have heightened my senses um on the twitch reflex side for sure and also I'm I'm a really bright bad typer but playing League has I guess is part of muscle memory to help me type without looking.

23:07.60
drnobodypodcast
And.

23:09.30
Amy Yang
So it it it um it plays into the ah hand-eye coronation part of games and.

23:15.81
drnobodypodcast
Exactly that that is such a good example 100 percent agree on that I grew up with Oregon trail on on computers and that's like the ancient 1 not not the the redid 1 the remastered version and. I learned how to type with a cardboard box over my keyboard but playing games I just learned how to do it and my whole point of asking you both these questions is just to make sure that the listeners understand that gamers aren't just wasting their life. You know, just playing video games and I think that's a stigma that needs to go away. Um, there's other aspect just like sports you get and I think 1 of you ladies said it you get tired I mean I I mean now as an adult like thirty thirty 2 year old man. Um I can only play a game for like 2 3 hours before I get exhausted. But when I was your age I would play ten hours And and then I would start getting a little sleepy a little tired but it really it really takes a toll and you do need to practice and get better have better reflexes and just build up your endurance and um typing is 1 of them. You get you get better playing video games. Um, and. Real world. So it doesn't matter if you're a gamer or not um, you know there are definitely listeners that are not gamers but there are differing things in your life that can prepare you for things that you don't even realize that can do in your future and your career and that was kind of the point I was trying to make. Um. Thinking about our listeners. What would you tell our listeners about or maybe future gamers because our listeners are different age groups. You know, ah, they're adults. They're your age or younger. What would you tell what is the best advice you can give to these these listeners about being a gamer. And still seeking to get to the top of your of your game in terms of your career, not non turn of video game.

25:23.70
Amy Yang
Um, can you rephrase that question.

25:27.67
drnobodypodcast
Yep Sure I figured I after I said it I figured that' that was gonna come So if someone was standing in front of you and they asked advice from you about being a gamer and still seeking to get to a career path. That's. Unrelated to being a gamer.. What would you give them as advice.

25:45.89
Amy Yang
Um, um, that's a really good question. It's it I think I I I.

25:50.15
drnobodypodcast
M.

25:55.89
drnobodypodcast
You all going to help you.

26:00.97
Toria Cardieri
Um I can go if you if you'd like yeah yeah, um, the advice that I would give is probably It's all about time management. You know it's like.

26:03.50
drnobodypodcast
It's a tough good. It's okay, go ahead.

26:05.55
Amy Yang
Okay, if you want to.

26:19.50
Toria Cardieri
It's like any other extracurricular activity that you'd like to do um for fun like it's like drawing like singing like um, crocheting because I crochet but um, like you set some time for it practice and get better. Um, but you also can't let it like blind you from everything else that you do in your Everyday life like I go to so I go to classes I work twenty hours at my job every week I have the club to run and then eventually like when I get home from everything I just hop on cs go and I play. Ah, for like an hour or 2 and then I go to bed. It's like all about time management.

27:00.50
drnobodypodcast
That's very good.

27:00.65
Amy Yang
I agree. Um it is for me. Ah, it depends where your passion really lies I know ah most students now go into college for for a passion but if gaming is also your passion and it's if it's. Stronger than you know, working on nine to five job or working in a hospital as a nurse or a doctor then that's that's where you should put your passion. Don't make it like a chore to have to balance the 2 you don't have to just whatever. You feel like you enjoy the most and gaming is like like a career too. You know put a time aside to away from gaming or away from your actual job to relax. You can watch tv listen to music dance. Um, but if you really love to game.

27:45.86
drnobodypodcast
Um.

27:59.22
Amy Yang
More than your nine to five job. You can always put in extra time for it and.

28:03.49
drnobodypodcast
I Absolutely agree, what is and this this could be related or unrelated to esports. But what is the the best moment of your life thus far and what is your worst. Moment of your life thus far and the only only reason why I bring it up is I asked this question to all my guests and it's really to show our listeners that we're Humans. We're just and we're really just nobodydies trying to get to a point in our life that we're more of a somebody and seeing how. We can so have successes and failures I think it's important for the listeners to hear from other people other than me so you guys mind sharing any of your stories.

28:51.21
Amy Yang
And um, yeah, so on the the gaming side my worst part. Ah or my worst experience was you know, waking up early but my but though that wasn't just waking up really.

29:09.82
drnobodypodcast
Definitely yeah.

29:10.64
Amy Yang
I Woke up early to play games and my mom you know she wanted me to do my homework before I play games but she caught me on my laptop and broke my laptop So I was really upset about that. Yeah I was really upset about that. But I can.

29:16.72
drnobodypodcast
Um, ouch yeah.

29:28.97
Amy Yang
You know your parents mean the best for you. So I understand where she came from in I definitely took in her her lesson that day into consideration on my Everyday life like I should do homework first before I play games homework first. Oh yeah, yeah.

29:40.61
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, let you on that good mindset. Yeah, that's.

29:47.34
Amy Yang
That broken laptop really traumatized me a little bit. Um, but the best part in that now that I'm in college and have a little more freedom to myself is this esports club that we've raised pretty much like a family of four hundred members where always.

30:04.15
drnobodypodcast
Bold. Well.

30:07.17
Amy Yang
Always hanging out together and we always got someone's free all the time So we'll always enjoy each other's time and I really like how much how much it's become a family and.

30:17.99
drnobodypodcast
400 sheesh all right. That's a that's a big club that's cool.

30:23.56
Toria Cardieri
Yeah, we got a lot of people that's like um for me, it's It's kind of the the same um my my my lowest point my worst I think moment would I guess would be probably um. I Think high school was was pretty bad and then also like when I went to to community college because I didn't really have a lot of like friends in my my hometown. Um and it wasn't until this semester that I've made like genuinely like real connections with people that are like me like I. Like I can't even remember like a time that I've eaten alone this semester like it's it's crazy like how how how fast and how like like real these these people are like we we really are like a family so I'm just so.

31:04.60
drnobodypodcast
And.

31:20.71
Toria Cardieri
Happy that I got to to have this opportunity and I got to meet all these amazing wonderful individuals and also got to to start a club on campus like ah this um e sports club. It's it's like a 1 of a kind. Um and we kind of made like a lot of um. But is it like Milestones I guess the word would be for for the school like we were the first eports like official club on campus where the first esports club that's part of the athletics department on campus and we're also the first esports teams to go to playoffs on campus like so.

31:53.58
drnobodypodcast
Well nice congrats.

31:58.69
Toria Cardieri
Yeah, a lot of a lot of cool stuff for us. Yeah.

31:59.10
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, well, that's great. Yeah, that's that's definitely pretty awesome to do? um and this is your first year rate for for the club. Yeah.

32:11.78
Toria Cardieri
So yes, yes, this is our actually our first semester. So yeah, so we're the first half of our first year

32:20.65
drnobodypodcast
That's an very impressive feat to do in ah in ah and 1 semester so I'm sure it's gonna it's gonna be amazing in the next couple years and Beyond um in terms of.

32:24.36
Toria Cardieri
Exactly yes.

32:35.70
drnobodypodcast
Ah, what you I just want you to think about your lives right now. What would you say are up to 5 things that have been ah, essential in succeeding in your career path in your life or in school and it could. It could be 1 it could be a couple or interchangeable. Um, yeah.

33:00.40
Toria Cardieri
I so like 5 things that wait just repeat that 1 more're time. Sorry.

33:04.90
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, no, that's fine So name 5 things that have been essential for you to succeed in your in your life in your career path or in school and it doesn't have to be five each it could just be just interchangeable like 1 1 1 or 1 Ah, covers all of them just however, you want to say it.

33:25.20
Toria Cardieri
Um, well I'm gonna have to go back to to what I was saying before I think time management is definitely a must Um I think like confidence is also a must like putting yourself out. There is like super important like um, ah.

33:31.26
drnobodypodcast
So.

33:43.52
Toria Cardieri
My 1 of my friends told me like if you don't like put yourself out there if you don't even try then the answer is always going to be no um because because so like the worst thing that someone will say or the worst thing that some like that will happen is that someone says no or that like it doesn't work out. But if you don't even try.

34:00.21
drnobodypodcast
Um.

34:03.62
Toria Cardieri
You'll never know if if if it if it will go well. Um, and then yeah, so so time management confidence. Um, try to think of others Amy If you'd like to to go then.

34:18.23
Amy Yang
And I was going to say dedication. That's that's my biggest 1 Um, my family is very traditional so they weren't really for me going and you know trying to do a career in esports or in gaming in general because they're like.. It's not Consistent. You won't get much out of it like you know, but for me I never gave up on my passion and I Definitely really really enjoyed putting in the work in time for this. That's um. I Do agree with to what Toria said time management is a really big 1 especially as a college student you have 11 or more classes you have to take care of and on top of a club at at least this Big. You have to run general body meetings you have to write for me. Ah. Meeting minute notes ah figure out events and fundraising events to run this club.. It's It's a lot of planning we have to do prior to to the actual thing and a lot of people don't really see that because it's all done in the background. Lot of people can take that for granted for how much work How many people we have 6 people 7 people on our on our eboard who put in all this work and time and dedication into this club. So yeah, it really takes time management dedication. The passion for it if you start losing Passion. You're not going to.. You're not going to follow through with the dedication right.

35:56.17
drnobodypodcast
Agreed Yes I Definitely agree and that goes for not just esports that just goes for anything in your career and those are very very vital things that everyone should have and it's unfortunate actually and this is something I was talking to someone else about. Is that these are almost things you have to learn on your own and not necessarily at least personally for me throughout my career I didn't learn these in school or through a traditional way of doing it I learned it on my own on the fly while on Fire. So It's hard and and it's really great that. Both learning it now so it can help you later on and you can translate that later. Um in terms of esports and and the club itself. Both of you can you name 1 thing that just totally gets you excited like a. You wake up in bed you're like I'm really excited about whatever it is like that's why you get up from bed.

36:59.53
Amy Yang
I For me, it's not really on the esports side I know you mentioned E Oh okay, um I always live by this but I live every day.

37:04.70
drnobodypodcast
Ah know then no to go ahead then non eastwards then it's totally fine.

37:16.30
Amy Yang
On its own like regardless of what happened yesterday or last night or you know before twelve and twelve a m it's a brand new day start off fresh and start off successfully you know wake up, get some food um hang out with friends while getting food or go to class get something done.

37:20.66
drnobodypodcast
So yeah, ah.

37:35.59
Amy Yang
So you'll know you're on a good foot for the day and do your best to not let anything knock you down, you know, like what if what if your grades are doing a little bad study a little more then you know you're you're making progress towards something you really want to do. But.

37:36.79
drnobodypodcast
M.

37:52.76
drnobodypodcast
Love it.

37:54.60
Toria Cardieri
And um, like I guess similar ah to amy it's like I kind of also like it's every day it's like ah like a new new experience. But um, when you first said, the question. The first thing that popped into my mind like what gets me out of bed in the morning and it's like I like the first thing I thought of was a general body meetings for the East club I was like.

38:17.49
Amy Yang
I Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

38:18.39
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, ah.

38:24.42
Toria Cardieri
Ah, thursdays the gvm thursday is the general body. You just have to get through monday tuesday and Wednesday and it's then the thing but.

38:27.16
drnobodypodcast
Ah, that's awesome. Ah, while we're talking about it. What is I Guess you're both really excited about it I'm generally curious. What is what is a general body meeting.

38:32.35
Amy Yang
I'm so looking forward to this week's general body meeting and.

38:34.58
Toria Cardieri
Me to me to.

38:46.67
drnobodypodcast
And what is it I mean why are you so excited about it.

38:48.80
Toria Cardieri
So general body meetings are something that happen every other Thursday and it's kind of like when like the whole club comes together in person we give like a presentation on like what? um like what. Like what has happened the past week what's gonna happen the next week what events we're hosting any new updates anything like that like how the competitive teams are doing and then we play like a game like this week spoilers I don't know. Ah we're playing Jeopardy so I'm very excited for that. Um. But it's just like I guess the vibe on thursdays it's like everyone like eats like lunch together like the whole eboard and the game managers and then like some spare like club members will come and like I'll see like a bunch of people like I'll be surrounded by like at least 10 people at all times. Like before the gbm and they'll be like hey toria when's the gbm be like 3 30 it's in here like you know so it's like the whole day you're just with people excited for this like 1 thing that you get to do together.

39:45.34
drnobodypodcast
Mm.

39:48.61
Amy Yang
And I think of it as like family game night where all covered was literally only last year so we're we're making the best of what we have in person this semester in general body meetings are.

39:51.64
drnobodypodcast
So. Yeah, yeah.

40:07.30
Amy Yang
Aside from us meeting up and eating lunch and just being in the eastports arena um general body meetings is where everyone you get to see everyone's face you get to meet everyone that you probably haven't met before where we talked on Discord like oh I know youre your your name like yeah.

40:23.12
drnobodypodcast
Yeah I.

40:23.91
Amy Yang
Peach you lover four for someone a I get to see a put a name to a face. Ah, whether it be the first general body you meeting you go to or the last 1 for the Semester. You'll always meet someone who you didn't meet in person before and it's everyone brings this. Very passionate energy about gaming because we genuinely like to be here and enjoy each other's time. So yeah, and.

40:52.21
drnobodypodcast
That's I'm so jealous I'm going to have my other friends on this podcast that I went to cain with and we basically indirectly worked on esports club. We also played. Card games while we were tutor at well not while we were tutoring but in between tutoring we play pokemon magic yugeo we did tournaments but we never had stuff like this and once they do hear about this and hear your the episode. They're gonna be so jealous that we didn't have that during our time so I'm really happy for both of you but I'm very jealous that I wasn't there around our time. Um, but it's it's pretty awesome to to hear it and definitely exciting for people to see. Do you think that? um and you could totally be. Non -huble about this. But do you think other esports clubs are like yours and.

41:49.47
Amy Yang
Um, um, that's a good question I haven't I don't really with all the work we have I don't really keep in contact with all the or ruckers esports or you know, um. Writer I think Writer has the a sports too. Um, but my my cousin goes to ruckers. So um on Thanksgiving break I was just asking him like hey did your team possibly get invited to the helix turning that we got invited soon just a little like just a little flex.

42:24.86
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, yeah.

42:27.00
Amy Yang
Home and I mean he was He wasn't really in in the esports thing but like he's he said probably and assuming from how good rutckers does with their esports I'm gonna guess um, a little bit. No and a little bit. Yes, it really depends on the community. The University Builds cain thrives on its um, what's it called diversity and the connections it makes here and yeah it it thrives on its diversity here. So for for me I Think. The Kane E Sports club is like more of a big family and compared to at least my understanding of ruckers. Maybe they're more on the formal side where they they're a less relaxed. You know you you understand what I'm trying to.

43:18.91
drnobodypodcast
But yeah, absolutely as someone from ruckers.

43:23.40
Toria Cardieri
Yeah, um I Ah I agree. Um I don't want to say like we're better, but we're different like I would say we're definitely like a unique program I've talked to other other schools like about.

43:23.48
Amy Yang
Say.

43:40.57
Toria Cardieri
Um, their esports programs and I've talked to people that go to other school about their esports programs because I like to get perspective I like to see like what I can incorporate into our esports club and whatnot like um, we went to Ngit for their super smash brothers local. Event and I was like hey does your school also like participate in e c ac tournament which is what we do. Um and they were like yeah we do but like we don't get any like um, we don't have like an arena like you guys do so. It's like I feel like since our school kind of like supports us in a way. Um. With this like we kind of have an advantage on that but also like it's not like ruckers where it's like formal like with them like you have to be like a certain rank to like even like be considered to to join their club um from what I've heard I don't know much about um like um, them. But. I know that so for ours, it's like family like ah oriented and but like casual but also still on the competitive side where we have the support from the school for the competitive stuff. So um, we're we're pretty We're pretty fortunate that we that we get our some support from the school to.

44:53.10
drnobodypodcast
That's awesome support from the school is Amazing. So if you have them on your back. That's amazing. Um, so just to wrap up the interview. Um I'm gonna ask you both a question and then just answer it. However, you'd like in terms of. Wisdom departing Wisdom. What would you say to our listeners in terms of the duality of being a gamer and being a student and still seeking that pathway to get to your career. What advice would you give them or or tell them or.

45:32.80
drnobodypodcast
You guys you you ladies can think about it for a sec.

45:40.13
Toria Cardieri
So I can repeat it 1 more time and.

45:42.25
drnobodypodcast
Yeah, and in in terms of a departing wisdom for the listeners. What type of what would you say to someone about the duality of being a gamer and a student. Still seeking to get to their career path. Well what wisdom would you instill them what guidance What advice would you tell them or ever in something motivational.

46:09.20
Toria Cardieri
Um, I would say just go for it is like kind of like um, my parting wisdom because um I was um, not originally supposed to be the the president of the club. But. Um, the person that was the president before had to um transfer like really suddenly and so it was kind of like hey guys who's gonna be the president and I was like ah well no, 1 Ne's saying they want to so I guess I'll do it and then it turned out to be like the best decision that I've ever made. So. If you're thinking of doing something just just go for it and.

46:50.39
Amy Yang
I I agree um take a risk sometimes you know if you're not sure of your capabilities. There's always space to learn and that's that's the amazing thing that toria got this semester. She got the chance to meet new people and learn how to. Manage a club and all these formal things we have to deal with with the school that it it all takes risk and facing those fears. Um for me I would go I would also say go for it too. Go for what you believe in? Don't let anyone knock you down you only live 1 time you know, live it to your fullest but also make sure you get time to rest and do your assignments because like career is still a big thing. Regardless, if you want to just do esports you. You still have to learn it right.

47:34.53
drnobodypodcast
Yeah.

47:44.96
drnobodypodcast
So Absolutely I think that's a core thing that you just mentioned rest you got to regenerate you got to tomorrow's a new day and you got to be refreshed for it. Um. Want to thank you both so much for being on this podcast and letting me interview both of you Fine ladies is it okay for our listeners to reach out to you on on your social handlers I don't know social media I don't know how you how people say nowadays right.

48:15.81
Toria Cardieri
Yeah, that's perfectly fine. My dms are open for questions I Guess so.

48:21.63
Amy Yang
I Yeah, my dms are always open I'll probably reply to you within an hour or instantly.

48:28.16
drnobodypodcast
Okay, um, and do you mind sharing a website where they can look more into about Keynesey sports. Do you guys have 1

48:38.11
Amy Yang
You Canneysports Dot com.

48:43.40
drnobodypodcast
That's pretty simple all right? Well listeners. You heard it here. Please reach out to them if you have any questions and look on the website to learn more about it. Thank you ladies so much amy and toria for giving me your time and giving the listeners some insights about. being a gamer and being a student you know it's it's 2 simple things but some people just blow it out of proportion I think sometimes um I also want to thank you for sharing your stories with ah with us today I hope our listeners gained some insights from you both? Um I think they were very valuable. This is definitely the beginning of becoming a someone but specifically the someone you always wanted it wanted to be I hope everybody enjoyed this episode if you did please give me a like review and subscribe and you can also visit my website. The drnoypocast dot com to learn more about the guests. So amy and toria and to listen to the episode again if you found any insights in it. Thanks again for listening to the Dr. nobody podcast where we turn nobodies to somebodies talk to you all very soon.